View of the Atheran Hustler truck and Cary body plus the rubber band drive.
Chassis and wheels taken apart
Another parts picture plus the gearing I'd like to use from the Hobbytown drive.
These set of wheels are nickel plated. I had them in my wheel scrap box. The gears are from a Hobby Town drive and the axles
are .092" drill rod. Just the right od for the wheel and gear id's. The brass tubing is used to space the gear and wheels. The larger is used to set the gear in the
middle of the axle. The shorter one is used to space the wheel the correct distance in from the end.
Once the locking compound had set up on the gear the wheel was spaced using the shorter tube.
The tube on the axle.
Side view of the tube on the axle.
Locking compound was then applied on the one set of wheels and left to set over night.
Once the left side wheels had set up I added the right side wheels and set the proper gauge. One thing I failed to document
was the fact that I needed to add an insulator bushing on the right set of wheels.
In this view you can see the wheels toward the top of the picture have the insulating bushing on. I had to drill out the wheel
to fit the plastic bushing and then the bushing to fit the axle. No locking compound was added. The plastic holds the wheel good enough. Then a temporary axle shaft was
cut and the second set of gears were temporarily placed on them to check for height off of the bottom.
The bottom was milled to about .070" thickness at it's thinnest point.
A piece of 3/16" thick brass plate was machined to fit into the bottom and secured with two 4-40 screws.
Next two 1/16" dia. holes were drilled through the bottom and the brass plate for locating pins. This helps to realign the gears
after disassembly for maintenance.
Again a couple of drops of Thread Locker was used to secure the pins to the bottom frame leaving the brass plate free to be
pulled off.
Update 12/2/11 I've run into a gearing problem. The Hobbytown gears I wanted to use will not work. Work will be held up until
a solution can be found to make it work. I'll post in the What's New section when I come up with a solution.
Update 12/20/11: I believe I have the gear problem solved
I milled a slot down the center for the lower drive shaft with the helical gears on them.
I was just going to make some small bearing caps that would fit over the top of the bearings to hold them down.
Instead I made one large piece to hold the bearings in.
I set up the Sherline mill with a small Vee block on it's side so I could drill the hole acuratley from both
sides of the bearing block.
Drilled to the final size of the bearing. The block has been drilled from both ends.
The bearings pressed in the block.
Test fitting to see if there is a good mesh of the helical gears. You don't want them to loose or to tight.
The top part of the bearing block is trimmed down. Next will be the big gear on the shaft between the block and helical gear.
And this is were I ran into a clearance problem. The gear doesn't really interfere with the one side (bottom arrow)
but does were the top arrow is pointing to. The gear was hitting the wheel. Time for a redesign.
I decided I would need a floor to suspend the gear tower off of. So a piece of 1/16" thick brass was cut out to replace the
plastic floor/frame that was there.
This is the Hobby Town drive tower. I purchased a NWSL Motor that is shorter than the one I had originally planned on using. I was
lucky, the motor shaft is the same size as the bearing of the first gear. The one with the ball on the end of it. The new tower and the rest of the gears are to the right
of the motor.
Next I made a mandrel to push the upper bearing out.
Success. Got the bearing out with little effort.
Next I cut another step on the mandrel for the bigger bearing. Came out just as easy as the first.
Now the bearings had to be mounted in the new gear tower.
But first I need to drill out the shaft for the top gear in the gear train. I tried pulling of the ball end off, but wound up snapping
off the shaft. So I used a 1/4" collet from the Sherline lathe. I wrapped the gear with .005" shim stock because the gear was a very loose fit in the collet. I made sure
that there was no run out and drilled the proper size hole.
Next I made an upper bearing cap. This will give you an idea of how to keep it on the center line of the two parts.
The two parts ready to be soldered together. You need to make sure that they are kept in line. I made a small jig to hold the parts
from some 1/4" thick aluminum plate and milled a step into it. Hard to see in this picture.
The two parts soldered together ready for a little clean up in the mill.
After a skim cut on all four sides to clean up the part the edge was determined at the small part end that was soldered on
using an edge finder.
Once the edge was determined a move was made the thickness of the upper part. This puts the center drill right on the joint line
of the two parts. This allows you to drill a round hole so when the two parts are separated you have two half's that the bearing fits in. This will become clearer in the
next few pictures.
I used four different size drills to sneak up on the hole size for the upper bearing.
Worked great. A nice snug fit for the bearing.
Next a move was made further down the tower for the next gear. You can make out the joint line on the first hole. You can see that
the hole was drilled on the center line of the joint.
And here's the end result of the holes drilled for the gears. A perfect fit to I might add. There is no binding of the gears.
I then milled steps on both sides of the upper piece to a thickness of less than .062" for 0-80 screws that were only .125" long.
I also drilled two 1/16" holes for line up pins. Here I'm tapping the 0-80 holes.
After the drilling and tapping was done the part was heated to separate them. The surfaces were cleaned up with a file. Here you
can get a better idea of the two half's that will hold the upper bearing.
Here it is assembled with the two gears.
And this is what it will look like once the motor plate is made and installed. Still a lot more work ahead on getting this in the
small space of the engine.
My idea of locating the drive shaft on the bottom plate of the frame didn't pan out. The gear tower would have had to have the
bottom cut back more than I would have like. Instead I came up with the idea of mounting the last shaft of the gear set in the tower itself. The next set of pictures will
explain that procedure.
Update 1/2/2012: The gear tower is almost done.
Here I'm lining up on the center of the tower so all the holes line up.
Next I used the shaft the gear is going to go on as a support while I slowly cranked the handle on the mill table to bring the
gear into mesh with it's mate. Once I got the proper backlash in the gear I was ready to drill the hole.
Proper backlash had been established.
The hole was spotted with a center drill and then drilled to the appropriate size for the bushing to have a nice tight fit.
Here is the gear on the shaft in mesh with it mating gear. Both the front and
rear bearings have been installed. On to the motor plate next.
The motor plate was made from a piece of a piece of .030" brass. Holes were drilled
using the dimensions given on the sheet that is provided with the motor. Also a thicker piece, apprx. 3/16" thick was
soldered on the bottom to act as a spacer to properly space the motor from the plate for clearance for the motor screws and front
bushing of the motor.
A side view of the plate. The thicker part had to be milled down to give the proper
spacer distance.
Getting close to mounting the motor to the gear tower.
Hear I'm testing for binding. I knew that with all those individual pieces that
there would be some binding somewhere.
In order to mount the bottom gear I needed to mill a slot in the motor plate. Kind of hard to see with the flash shot.
I drilled a couple of clearance holes for 2-56 screws in the motor plate and taped 2-56 tpi holes in the tower. I didn't drill all
the way through. I drilled deep enough to give about 1/4" depth so the screws would bottom out to hold them tight. They were left long will running the motor. This gave me
the idea of leaving the motor plate floating and letting the shaft of the motor support itself in the bearing. I'll find out later if this was a good idea.
Here's a better view of the slot to clear the gear shaft, plus the long 2-56 screws.
Next I got a measurement of how much to cut off the screws to bring them closer to the motor plate.
I screwed them into a die to help hold the tiny screw.
Next I cut off the access with a pair of side cutters. The screws are soft enough to do this. I guess I could also have used my
Dremel and a cut off disk.
A quick touch up with a file to get rid of any large burrs. Then I unscrewed the shorter screw. The die helped reform any thread
that was damaged making ti easier to thread it in it's hole.
Here is the whole gear tower assembled.
And what it will look like when mounted in the frame somehow.
That's it for now. I need to figure out how I'm going to mount that in the frame so that the gears all mesh somewhat perfectly.
I'll post an update in the "What's New Page" when I get it to that point. Until then happy model railroading.
I decided to add a brass subframe to set the motor and gear box in. Here I'm cutting out the inside with my trusty fret saw and a
very thin jewelers blade.
The finished cut. If you look at the four corners you'll see I drilled holes there. I then cut from hole to hole until I had the
inside cut out. The holes help in turning the saw 90° for the next cut.
The inside was filed to the lines and here I'm doing a trial fit of the gear tower/motor. Looks good.
Looks good on the frame too. I realized I was going to need a way to keep the sub-frame aligned if it ever needs to be taken off
for some reason.
Then I drilled two holes through the sub-frame and into the frame for 1/16" alignment pins.
Pieces of brass angle will keep the gear-tower/motor in place.
Two pieces cut to length and placed on either side of the gear-tower/motor.
Drilling the holes into the side of the gear tower. They needed to be square, so I used a precision block and held the wheels
against the block while the frame held it up on the vise. Two 0-80 holes on both sides.
I used the contacts out of an ice cube relay. They have gold or silver plated contacts. Works great on model railroad wheels.
Two small brass blocks with 0-80 screw holes were soldered to a piece of circuit board. The contacts were screwed into the blocks
to make changing them in the future easier if they need changing.
Locating the two boards so I can put 0-80 screw holes in the sub-frame to hold the contacts in place.
The electrical pickups mounted and wires attached, ready for it's maiden voyage. The one pickups corner can be seen under the
motor.
And here is the switcher with the body mounted on the frame ready for final details. That will come later
Now that the drive is finished I'm sure many would like to see it actually run. Well I made a video.