-(2003)
The following is from "The Route of the Weekend Chief", by Mike Boland, published in the Autumn 1995 issue of The Keystone.
posted here by "jhdeasy"
February - July 2003, foolishly didnt think to keep track of updates as survivors rolled in! oh-well. 41 locomotives found as of July 2003.
July 8, 2003 - added info about the 2 possible SW9 survivors.
August 8, 2003, one of the SW9 confirmed surviving! added LV282 to the list. Total is now 42.
August 14, 2003 - added Baldwin and GE centercab info. added new locomotive chart/table.
August 18, 2003 - added SW9 292 to the 1976 roster, I hadnt accounted for her before. (her survivor status is unknown)
September 3, 2003 - added some links to some excellent current C420 and GP38-2 photos.
September 7, 2003 - added the LV tugboat "Cornell" to the survivors list.
September 12, 2003 - confirmed 4
U23B survivors! 501, 509, 510, 511. raising the survival total from 42
to 46.
and dropping the "unknowns" from 80 to 76!
September 17, 2003, added SW8 261 and 271 to the survivor list! both are in Canada. total is now 48. unknowns 74.
ALSO! 7 LVRR doodlebugs still survive! As Sperry Rail cars! added them to the "others" list!
October 14, 2003 - added LV
gondola # 34317 to the freight car survivors list.
also added 3 passenger cars: "queen anne" and 1553 & 1554.
October 20, 2003 - added 2 new pages! LV408 and LV95011
November 2, 2003 - added the page about the LV and Erie coal transfer trestle in Waverly.
November 15, 2003 - added info
for
several engines from "Comprehensive Guide to
Industrial
Locomotives" 1998 edition
added LV 268 as a survivor!! survivor total is now 49!
also confirmed Amtrak 749 is actually LV 267.
added Joshua Blay and Tom Hannon's tours to the "tours
page"
December
14, 2003 - A sad update. for the first time, I
have had to reduce the number of survivors!
C420 409 & 415 have been confirmed scrapped. (click
here for more info)
Survivor total dropped from 49 to 47.
But! another survivor found! SW8m 272 has been discovered in Lansing,
NY.
total back up to 48.
January 01,
2004 - 2 new engines
found!
total reaches 50 survivors!
and, for the first time, the total confirmed surviving is greater than
the total confirmed scrapped! :)
Added U23B 512, on the Blacklands Railroad in Texas.
and the first SW900 survivor, LV 130, on the Pecos Valley Southern,
also
in Texas.
January 16, 2004
-
added info about LV diner 1000, currently in Marietta, GA as the
"Tuscurora
Club"
also added NS retirement of GP38AC 310, 312, 313.
February 2, 2004 - Another unit confirmed scrapped. :( LV Alco S2 159 / BSOR 106. scrapped at the steel mill in Buffalo.
March 1, 2004
-
Another survivor found! Alco S4 #166, survivor total is now 51.
Also! added the "Sayre
U23B" page!
And! added new aerial photos of Sayre to the "Tour
of Sayre" page.
but wait! theres more! added new survivng structures to the "others"
page.
March 14,
2004
- Added a bunch of Alco S2
and
S4 photos! on the S2
page, and the S4
page.
Also added more RS11
Slug photos.
And, more photos of SW900m 126.
April 19,
2004
- Added LV boxcar 66523 to
the
"others" page.
also added a new photo of Transmodal U23B 2778
June 1,
2004
- a new survivng
caboose! LV 95047, Canastota, NY
LV Alco S2 164 confirmed still surviving in Claymont, Delaware
July 1,
2004
- Added a
new
tour to the "tours
page" - Towanda Monroeton Shippers Lifeline.
Added a new link, LVRR Historical Society.
July
11,2004
- New
survivor found! SW8 259. survivor total reaches 53!
Added new photo of U23B 503 (WIMX 2779)
Gave the updates their own page..
September 1, 2004
-
added new photo and webpage for LVRR Tugboat "Cornell"
confirmed SW8m 252 is in fact operating at Dresden NY, lettered as CR
8666.
survivors goes up by one more! 54 found.
LV U23B 509 confirmed opearting in Anneville, PA, as Pennsy Supply 2785.
January 14, 2005 Added Rochester junction tour by Joseph Muto to the tours page.
February 16, 2005 added Paige Miller's "Spring Creek Trestle" tour to the tours page.
February 22, 2005 Added RDC 40 & 41 to the "others" list.
June 22, 2005 Made new lists for the LV Caboose survivors.
December 5, 2005 Did a much needed makeover for the surviving locomotives list..prettied it up.
January 3,
2006
Sad news...several of the U23B's are falling to the torch..
501 was scrapped in 2005
510 was in line to be scrapped in January 2006, might have a reprieve,
uncertain as of 1/3/2006.
a third unit is not long for this world..
the survivor count falls by one..from 54 to 53.
Sadly, we cant save them all..its just business..these units are too
far
gone.
but at least one of the U23B's is being preserved! should arrive in
Sayre
in 2006.
January 16,
2006
New Survivor found!! SW8 275 is stored in Minnesota, as Amtrak 750.
Survivor total jumps back up to 54.
June 19,
2006
Sad update.. LV GP38AC 310 has been scrapped. :(
She must have been too far gone for the NS GP38 rebuild program.
The following note appeared on the railfan lists:
"i noticed Cr #580374 with the sad duty of carrying ex lv/cr/ns #2881
cut up in same gon. it went over the hump,according to hump cndr carded
for
roanoke va,which mean s a 15t/35q trip. I climbed up into the car,(hope
no
bosses reading this)to verify the number,and did get disposable camera
photo's of it's hump trip,but if we're correct on the number Ex-lv
gp-38ac
# 311
is no more. proably a victim of a worn out frame. suprisingly the top
of
the cab
was cut off & put in the gondola upside down,with the horn still
attached.
soneone did remove the two numberboards though."
(the poster mistakenly called the until LV311, but we confirmed it was NS 2881/ LV 310)
Survivor total drops by one..from 54 to 53.
LV 311 and 312 have already gone through the NS rebuilding program, so
their future is secure
for many more years to come.
313 is still stored..hopefully she will also be rebuilt and get a new
lease
on life.
July 3,
2006
LV GP38AC 310 is NOT, repeat NOT, scrapped afterall! :)
There was a good deal of confusion for a few weeks, but in the end it
was
only her CAB that was seen,
No the whole scrapped engine. And the NS GP38 rebuild program gives the
locos NEW cabs!
See this
thread for the whole saga.
All FOUR of the LV GP38AC's are now confirmed going through the NS
rebuild
program!
October 2, 2006 Added
two new survivors to the list! SW900M 125 and SW9 288.
Survivor total jumps up to 56.
March 19, 2007 - added the
sad info that GP9 301 was in fact scrapped..I suspected it all along,
but
now
we know.
added info that all four GP38AC's are now confirmed rebuilt and in
operation
with NS!
LV SW8 273 Found! :) Survivor total jumps by one to 57 units.
August
2007
- LV U23B 510 reported moving from Annville, PA to RMDI, Pittston, PA.
no further details. renumbured to BDLX 2786.
March 12, 2008 - Added new information about LV 112 being sold and future plans for her restoration!
May 13, 2008 - Added info about LV U23B 508 being sold and repainted, now with "Lafarge" in Alliance, Ohio.
June 10, 2008 - Added info about U23B 512, scrapped in early 2008. Survivor count drops from 58 to 57 units.
November 18, 2008 - added info about LV U23B 510 moving to RMDI, and added new photos of LV 510 and 511 at RMDI.
November 19, 2008 - One of the "status unknown" units was confirmed
scrapped. LV SW8 257 was confimed scrapped in NJ in the late 1990's.
October 2009 - FIVE! big updates for the LV survivors list:
LV 1000, passenger car, was sadly scrapped..I moved her data here:
LV 1000
- Dining car , located in Marietta, GA.
-(2003)
The following is from "The Route
of the Weekend Chief", by Mike Boland, published in the Autumn 1995
issue
of The Keystone.
posted here
by "jhdeasy"
In August 1961, the LIRR purchased Lehigh Valley # 1000, an arch-roof diner with an aluminum kitchen and a charcoal stove. During the late 1961 summer season, it saw brief service with white-coated waiters on train # 28, "The Weekender." The car was later named TUSCARORA CLUB. Dining car service was upgraded for its inauguration during the 1962 season. Service was offered on Fridays on train # 26, "The East Ender." On Sunday evening, it returned to the city with full-course dinners available. At other times, when the car was in service, evening snacks and continental breakfasts were served."
"At the end of the 1964 season, dining car service was discontinued. While it was a clever idea, it was an expensive proposition. McNamara went ahead with it because his able assistant, Willie Wilson, oversaw its operation. Unfortunately, it turned out to be more trouble than it was worth; the railroad was not adequately prepared to operate it. Stocking the car with provisions for two dinner runs a week that began over 100 miles apart (Jamaica and Montauk) proved to be too difficult. Still, it lasted for three seasons and the car was used as a 48 seat lounge after its kitchen was closed."
Diner TUSCARORA CLUB, various heavyweight parlor cars and open platform observation car JAMAICA were used for a New York Chapter NRHS excursion from New York to Montauk and return on Sunday September 30, 1962. The excursion ticket was $12; a buffet dinner was available on TUSCARORA CLUB for an additional $4.
In 1963, leaving Montauk at 6:43 PM on Sunday nights, "The Sundowner" had two or three Fairbanks-Morse H16-44 diesels, eight parlors, a diner and at least six P72 coaches.
In 1964, diner
service
(presumably on TUSCARORA CLUB) was offered on the following
trains:
-- train # 16 "The
Advance
Cannonball" on Thursday
-- train # 26 "The
Weekender"
on Friday (first section)
-- train # 4011 "The
Sundowner" on Sunday
-- train #3 "The
Cannonball"
on Monday
The car was deadheaded east to Montauk on Sunday night train # 4020 to position it for its westbound revenue run to Jamaica on train # 3 on Monday morning.
TUSCARORA CLUB was used by the PRR in the consist of an all-parlor car special train from New York to Philadelphia and return for the 1964 Army-Navy football game.
click here: http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/lirr/heavyweight_tuscarora_club.html
for more info on this car.
Update!
LV 1000, now known as the "Tuscarora club" was sold at Auction on
October
29, 2008.
here are some details from her auction
listing:
Tuscarora Club 2037
heavy-weight
dining car
· Approximately
80' long and 9' to 10' wide
· Originally
built
in 1917; wheel stamp March 1917
· Rebuilt in
1953
by Lehigh Valley as 48-seat dining car
· Acquired by
Long Island Rail Road in August 1961
· Briefly
numbered
2005 before being assigned number LIRR2037
· Removed from
service in 1964
· Car has been
side tracked since early 1970s
· For more
information
on the history and noteworthy reference in publications, see this
document.
· Small kitchen
in rear of car with original coal-burning oven; coal still in oven from
last use
· Modernized
with
central air ducts and electric baseboard heating
· Extensive
baseboard
electrical outlets
· Hyatt M-3383
stamp on wheel
· No
restroom
· Previously
used
as a dining room for restaurant with kitchen in adjacent building
· Last owner's
ancestors brought the rail line to Marietta in the 1800s
· Car is
side-tracked
adjacent to the Marietta Depot Building circa 1899
· No restaurant
or kitchen equipment is included
· Needs
restoration
· Sits on CSX
railroad right-of-way with active CSX track approximately 20ft.
away
No real estate is
included
in this sale, only the train car and contents as listed above
Marietta, GA
Condition = 3
Sold
as pictured, item has not been tested. We have made no attempt to
evaluate
this merchandise other than picturing it.
Last
updated November 1, 2009